December 29, 2005
A Year of Gun Violence
By now, most everyone in the city knows of the single most unfortunate event in Toronto this year: On Boxing Day, while shopping, 15-year-old Jane Creba was killed by errant gunfire. Six other innocent bystanders were also wounded.
Just as any other human being in this city - or rather anyone else privy to this story - we feel deeply affected by this. And, as it should go without saying, our utmost sympathies to any and all people more personally affected. This was by no means the first innocent victim of gun violence, and sadly won't be the last. That said, it's obviously not the event itself which we would like to debate, but the action that follows. Torontoist has paid a lot of attention to this problem throughout the summer, and believe this to be an appropriate time for discussion.
Anger is a natural, healthy reaction to injustice; we cannot help but respond emotionally toward senseless acts of violence. But anger is only a reaction, not a solution. In the wake of the Boxing Day shoot-out, here is some of the reaction and solution offered up in the city:
Stephen Harper immediately turned the event into campaign push, calling the tragedy a result of the Paul Martin Liberal's inability to legislate properly regarding gun crimes. From CTV.ca:
Conservative Leader Stephen Harper, meanwhile, blamed the growth in crimes involving guns, gangs and drugs a consequence of the Liberal government's inaction, and its "failure to deal effectively with crime.""This government is running a revolving door sentencing system," said Harper before highlighting again his party's pledges to introduce mandatory prison sentences for serious crimes.
"We'll make the legislative changes necessary to ensure that we are able to enforce laws against violent repeat and serious criminal behaviour," said the Tory Leader in Vancouver.
Torontoist says: This sounds like the rhetoric of gun-advocate. Somewhat gutless? No, very gutless. Gun advocates should probably followed the actions of these people.
While still with the federal leaders, Jack Layton had a more even-handed response, saying in a press release:
“These crimes remind us that we must get illegal handguns off our streets in Toronto and across Canada.To do that we need tougher border controls, tougher sentencing for weapons offences, and tougher anti-gang policing, prosecutions and sentencing.
We also need to get tougher — much tougher — on poverty, unemployment and social exclusion.”
Torontoist says: Good on Jack for a solid, thoughtful response!
In the blogosphere, as they say, BlogTO takes a gruesome photo from the Star to accompany a description of a stolen iPod. A snippet:
About a week before Christmas, one of my best friends was mugged. His newly purchased prized Video iPod, that he had gone through a great deal of trouble to finally own, was snatched right out of his hands on the TTC subway. The brave soul that he is, RAN AFTER the thief and cornered him at the wrong end of the platform.
Torontoist says: Nothing. Torontoist says nothing, but rather is completely mystified. Is this really a post about petty theft? Does it have any relationship to the picture, or these issues? (Makes disgusted face.)
Tory leader John Tory met with Chief Bill Blair to discuss cameras on the street, which would catch criminal activity on film. From the Star:
More video cameras monitoring streets and stores in "high-risk" areas are needed, Ontario Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory said.Cameras will deter some people from committing crimes and will provide valuable evidence when crimes take place, he told reporters at the corner of Yonge and Dundas Sts., near where Creba and six other innocent bystanders were shot.
Torontoist says: Tory does what Stephen Harper did, only in a more polite way. The idea itself, which seems to have support from Blair, the provincial government and city councilor Jane Pitfield, has been tried around the world. This creates an uncomfortable tension, especially as the city must denote "high risk" areas ("I live two blocks from the Pizza Pizza...yeah, just take a right at the public security camera"). But, much like the proposed ban on handguns, this is something. Something is, most times, better than nothing.
Shelia Ward, chair of the Toronto District School Board, has the most pointed solution. She says, via CTV:
"I want to see federal criminal legislation that provides for a 10-year surcharge added on to any sentence for a crime in which a gun is in the possession of any of the perpetrators," Sheila Ward said, suggesting a consecutive sentence of a decade in jail would send a powerful message."The sentence would not allow for any time off for good behaviour, nor would it be eligible for any other reductions.
According to Ward, tougher sentences are not alone the answer to the growing problem of violence in Canada's biggest city.
She said Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty should cancel welfare reform legislation passed by the former Conservative government of Mike Harris.
"We have lost a whole generation of young people because of the mindless slashing and cutting of social programs, which was more concerned about a piddling tax cut than it was about the damage done to the whole social fabric of our province.
"If one of Premier McGuinty's sons got a job tomorrow he would keep every penny he earns. But a child of poverty who gets a job to help his or her family, loses 40 per cent of that paycheck if the Mom resides in social housing. It was a brutally stupid idea when it was introduced and it is shameful that this piece of legislation remains on the books two years after a new government has taken office."
Torontoist says: This is very reasonable. The comment on Harris-regime cuts have been thrown around the web and beyond for several years.
Toronto Mayor David Miller has another good response in regards to public fear. Again, from CTV:
"We all have to be out on the street demonstrating that we're not going to be afraid.""Guns come from two places, about half of them come from the United States and about half are stolen from legal gun owners in and around Toronto which is why I support a ban on handgun ownership."
Torontoist says: Well, we already called this a 'good response,' so...there you go. But, it should be noted, fearing gunmen is not a sustainable action. A ban on handguns is. And while we know that criminals don't register their guns anyway (they also don't get their drugs from pharmacies, though cocaine is still banned), a ban is still a move in the right direction (or, any direction).
And, lastly and somewhat leastly, the blogs. Here here here here.
Torontoist says: We've said enough. Rest in peace, all the victims of gun violence this year.



I don't know why you haven't posted a link to Stephen Harper's comments, since you say you found them online. Anyway, I found them at a different site and he said:
http://www.saanichnews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=28&cat=23&id=564895&more=
“The emphasis has to be on enforcing the law, and providing penalties for those who break them. We have had an effective handgun law in this country for decades. It was a Conservative government that brought that in. And until this government took office, that ban was effective."
“This is the first government in history that has not been able to control the flow of illegal guns into this country and illegal gun use, because it’s running a revolving-door prison system. They will not agree to mandatory prison sentences for those who commit violent acts with guns. Simply saying the government is going to ban guns that are already banned is symptomatic of a government that will not back down on crime.”
I just don't see what is "gutless" about that. Nor do I see what makes this gun-advocate rhetoric, as you say. Please justify your remarks.
Harpers criticisms happen to be true. The Liberals were against toughening gun penalties until an election was imminent. Meanwhile, the new handgun ban that you support brings almost nothing new. It's not a "move in the right direction". It is meaningless electioneering.
http://www.andrewspicer.com/article652.html
http://www.snappingturtle.net/flit/archives/2005_12_08.html#005671
harps says he'll crack down on illegal guns coming through the border? how? a re-interpreted patriot act? i don't mean to defend paul martin, but at least his plan is tangible. harper wants tougher gun penalties? when? i'm with the mayor on this one: banning hand guns, at least in urban areas, has an immediacy to it. harper won't go near restricting gun use because he likes the right to bear firearms. i believe his public record indicates this. it's not gutless to consistently vote against gun control, but it is gutless to not own up to those opinions. "People like to get angry, blame politicians they don't like, or blame ways of thinking that they don't like. But few offer anything by way of realistic plans or ideas that would actually make any difference." i'd say that's accurate with harper (although you'd probably say that's accurate with me). here's more of harper's "ideas" on gun control:
http://www.conservative.ca/EN/1091/34309
(also, stephen harper is so far removed from the PC government of which he referred, it's pathetic that he even brought that up.)
and his election talk is extremely insensitive after killing of a teenager on boxing day. harper could really take notes from john tory on how to do that. and the reason i didn't post links is because i forgot. will post now.
Didn`t Paul Martin also make public comments following the shooting?
I guess Harper would crack down on illegal gun smuggling by better equiping and utilizing our Customs and Immigration service. I don't know what that has to do with the Patriot Act.
I also don't think it is insensitive for the party leaders to respond after such an incident. In fact, I expect them to. Harper, Martin and Layton all did.
I'm not a Conservative partisan. Like you, I am looking for solutions that will prevent gun crime in Toronto. And that's why I think that Harper actually has a better plan than Martin's. And, in fact, it is Martin's gun ban that offers little tangible difference from what exists today.
We only know about one of the shooters involved on Boxing Day. He was arrested for an armed robbery and sentenced to two CONCURRENT 30-day terms. In other words, he spent 30 days out of town for pointing a gun at a store-owner, threatening to kill him, and taking his money.
If we had tougher sentences, he wouldn't have been on Yonge Street on Boxing Day. (His jail term was Nov 4 to Dec 3... even if those short 30-day sentences were served consecutively, he'd still be away.)
On the other hand, we have no reason to believe that Martin's gun ban would have changed anything. He probably would have still had an illegal gun.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=c3538f2d-886b-40d9-a662-a0da3bce453b&rfp=dta
Look, I'm all for getting rid of handguns. I'm not opposed to Martin's policy. I just don't think it will do much of anything and instead is a cheap election ploy designed to make him look like he is doing something.
yeah yeah. but martin didn't point fingers. either did layton. neither did tory. nor julian fantino, bill blair, dalton m., etc etc. responding is one thing, using a young girls death to get votes is another. shame on harper.
like i wrote, it's not about restricting illegal guns - it's about restricting GUN USE. harper isn't willing to entertain that; i guess he's got hunting buddies that need handguns in downtown toronto. i'd be interested in hearing an actual plan as apposed to an idea. it's a nice idea to stop guns at the border, but how? random searches? stop only those who look like gang members? i suspect, knowing what i know of stephen harper, that he'd co-opt a strategy out of the ashcroft patriot act. (that part is me projecting on to harp, to emphasize his non-plan.)
yes this shooter should have been in prison, but that is totally circumstancial. according to the post, he was a gang foot-solidier; an arbitrary trigger-puller. if he didn't do it, someone else would. they'll always find some idiot to pull a trigger. best move? take the gun away. i support david miller on this issue (and, i guess by default, paul m.).
Sure, I'm all for taking the guns away too. I just don't think Martin's plan will make a significant difference there.
Neither does Jack Layton, by the way. He, like Harper, also attacked Martin after the shooting. Layton said:
"[S]ince it would appear that these crimes were committed with handguns, it is almost certainly true that all of the weapons involved are already illegal - already banned.
"So it is important for Canadians not to be diverted by election rhetoric."
I live in New York City.
There was a time not too long ago where 7+ senseless murders on a daily basis was considered commonplace. The illegal guns, drugs, etc were the constant causes of the problems. Yet through more policing, taking the guns off the streets, more social programs/opportunities, etc, New York City will have the lowest murder rate ever recorded in over 40 years.
I have been to Toronto many times during the rough New York period in the 90's and have always admired the fact that for a city that is deemed "similar" to New York in terms of being cosmopolitan, it was always safe and friendly. To hear about the senseless murders happening and crime rising there disturbs me. It's as if while NYC is getting safer, Toronto is getting worse.
Jack Layton had the best commment about getting tougher on unemployment, social exclusion, etc. What needs to be done is outreach...NOW. Get out to the gangs on their own turfs, have some sort of amnesty program where people who own guns or have illegal guns can turn them in to any police station, no questions asked. One program in NYC exchanged toys for guns during the holiday season and it wielded off 1,000+ guns.
I DON'T want Toronto of 2006 to turn into the New York City of 1990. It won't happen overnight, but something has to change. I hate seeing a city that I love go down like this.
Tomorrow, Monday January 2nd, 2006
we are holding a Candlelight memorial Vigil
for ALL FIFTY TWO victims of gunfire in the city
of Toronto during 2005.
Starts at 5 pm
Reading the names of ALL 52 names begins at 5:10 pm
Moment of Silence at 5:19 pm, exactly one week to
the minute of the Boxing day shootings on Yonge St.
End time of 6 pm
We will stand on both the east and west sidewalks
along Yonge Street between Elm and Gould streets north of Dundas.
BYOC and BCFO, bring your own candles and bring candles for others.
Youth who are friends of some of the 52 victims will read the names.
more info at the Yonge Street Peace website:
http://www.YongeStreetPeace.TYO.ca
The past 24 months has been a total waste of time from all levels of govt dealing with this issue. It is time we boot out all incumbants and bring some new ideas to the table however far fetched they are. The current approach is not working.
Headline from todays Toronto Star...
2006 begins with another gun killing
Toronto mayor saddened by news
> sorry mayor, thats not good enough!
i'm sorry, but i can't help but think you cut-and-paste that comment from somewhere, billon.
I think dismissing those responsible for shooting other people as just gang "foot solidiers" and "arbitrary trigger pullers"is a mistake. It diminishes their own personal responsibility for their actions at a time when personal responsibility seems to be on the decrease, especially in the criminal justice system. It is no accident that these incidents are becoming more and more brazen and public. That is how you maintain a level of fear in the community that hampers the police, while gaining a more notorious reputation for ruthlessness. We should always strive to improve effective social programs and opportunities for personal improvement,as well as a criminal justice system that punishes appropriately and helps to deter others from repeating the same acts.
Was it only ONE killing in Toronto for 2006? We had four killings here in New York City to ring in the new year.
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"A Year of Gun Violence
(By now, most everyone in the city knows of the single most unfortunate event in Toronto this year:) On Boxing Day, while shopping, 15-year-old Jane Creba was killed by errant gunfire. "
^^^^- only a idiot would call this particular murder the most unfortunate event in Toronto this year...did you really think your opinion express the voice of the masses...just because u have media power ... doesn't mean your printed word is valued or written in stone... only a cold unthinking source would single out the death of 1 to be more sacred than that of another...
that statement is weak...